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Post FW Dance
Many Gorean Free Men would reach for a collar if they saw a Free Woman dancing. But Free Women DID dance.

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To the music of the musicians, near the iron door, they performed a most decorous dance, slowly and gracefully lifting their arms and turning, facing first one side and then the other. In their hands they held baskets of flower petals. The dance was the sort that free maidens of a city might perform to honor and welcome visiting dignitaries, or the ambassador and his entourage, of a foreign city.

--Guardsman of Gor, page 94

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The dance in the circle, as one might have gathered, was not the stately dance of free maidens, even in which, of course, the maidens, though scarcely admitting this even to themselves, experience something of the stimulatory voluptuousness of movement...

--Magicians of Gor, page 44

Free Woman just danced in a way very different from the way slaves would dance. A slave might dance to arouse a man, whereas a FW would dance just to celebrate life. After all, Goreans are a passionate people, and they love the world they inhibit.

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Goreans care for their world. They love the sky, the plains, the sea, the rain in the summer, the snow in the winter. They will sometimes stand and watch clouds. The movement of grass in the wind is very beautiful to them. More than one Gorean poet has sung of the leaf of a Tur tree. I have known warriors who cared for the beauty of small flowers.

-- Hunters of Gor, page 119

There would be no sexuality in a dance by a Free Woman. But would there be sensuality? How can any Gorean not appreciate the information provided to them by senses?

Whereas a slave might dance in a style similar to belly dancing, I think a FW would dance more in the style of ballroom, perhaps with a waltz and loose, graceful movements.

Or maybe something like this, without the lifting of skirts and teasing of the man:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CJpZaN-Ks

Or even better:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZEb3RBl14E

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Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:13 pm
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Post Re: FW Dance
Again, the most basic explanation I offer most people is to simply recognize the difference between beautiful and sexual.
A free woman is still a woman and expected to be entirely feminine and lovely.

I imagine balletic and geisha style moves that flatter the lines of her garments and feminine gentility, with poise and gracefulness in her moves, sweeping and posing, twirling the fabric and light on her feet.

Certainly she might also create movement to emote a story styled dance not unlike hula dancing that recalls the legends and most honorable moments of her Home Stone and loved ones in a way that could not be captured as respectfully by a slave.

As you said, Dear, she is also very likely to celebrate nature and be adorned with flowers and leaves and such things.

Ribbons and trimmings and other props might also commonly be used, since she would be permitted to show off possessions or items of significance.

In short, a free woman's dance can have as many endless variations as a slave's... just simply a different intention behind the performance.

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Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:13 pm
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Very well said Dear and Bella. I think far too many people lose sight of the fact that a FW was not some dried up prig. They were vibrant women as full of life as slaves were, just restricted in how they expressed it. Dancing such as you see in those videos, like you see in Jane Austen movies would be very acceptable.

I'd love to see more RPers able to play out the full vibrancy of a FW and be allowed to do so in SL Gor. That's one thing I tried hard to do, and was often thwarted by the pew pew boy's club that felt that a FW with any emotion at all was courting a collar. I'm mean c'mon... thrown in jail for verbally defending myself against a lowly slaver that wanted to call me a slave? In front of the higher caste men of the city and my own brother who was too much of a pussy to defend me because ooc she was scared of the men RPing with us?

oy! sorry, hit a nerve there I guess LOL


Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:47 pm
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Sage wrote:
Very well said Dear and Bella. I think far too many people lose sight of the fact that a FW was not some dried up prig. They were vibrant women as full of life as slaves were, just restricted in how they expressed it. Dancing such as you see in those videos, like you see in Jane Austen movies would be very acceptable.

I'd love to see more RPers able to play out the full vibrancy of a FW and be allowed to do so in SL Gor. That's one thing I tried hard to do, and was often thwarted by the pew pew boy's club that felt that a FW with any emotion at all was courting a collar. I'm mean c'mon... thrown in jail for verbally defending myself against a lowly slaver that wanted to call me a slave? In front of the higher caste men of the city and my own brother who was too much of a pussy to defend me because ooc she was scared of the men RPing with us?

oy! sorry, hit a nerve there I guess LOL


It would seem you have discovered the thing that I did about high caste men in SL Gor, especially warriors. While it is not true of all of them for the large majority it is about a cock measuring contest even with women. A truly dominant man wouldn't feel the need for such posturing, it's a sign of intimidation; conversely there are a lot of free women that push it to far in the name of being a vibrant woman.


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Post Re: FW Dance
The problem with SL Gor, or any form of online Gor - is that most people only read one or two books (if that) and think they understand the complex world that Norman created.

Norman borrowed heavily from various cultures on Earth to show thier underlaying similiarities. Dancing would have been one of those similarities.

Given how Goreans seperate the Free Woman from the slave, I seriously doubt if a Free Man would have looked on a Free Woman's dancing as anything but a celebration of life. Or as an honor to another.


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Post Re: FW Dance
I find it curious though, that in both the quotes shown, the word used isn't free *women*, but free *maidens*. On earth, the term maiden carries connotations of being unmarried and virginal, and likely very young. Has anyone seen mention of dances by older women, or companioned women?

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Post Re: FW Dance
Markos_Binder wrote:
I find it curious though, that in both the quotes shown, the word used isn't free *women*, but free *maidens*. On earth, the term maiden carries connotations of being unmarried and virginal, and likely very young. Has anyone seen mention of dances by older women, or companioned women?


Not and lived to tell about!

:)

Seriously though, it does make you wonder if there is the possibility of some sort of maypole like activities.


Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:21 pm
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Post Re: FW Dance
Markos_Binder wrote:
I find it curious though, that in both the quotes shown, the word used isn't free *women*, but free *maidens*. On earth, the term maiden carries connotations of being unmarried and virginal, and likely very young. Has anyone seen mention of dances by older women, or companioned women?


Ooh good point. Maybe a young free woman dances at a pre-teen age, at an age that is unaware of sensuality.

I remember the quote from Nomads that says that free women are educated in the love dances of their city or something like that... But it seems that it's more of a free woman back up plan to save her life if ever enslaved.


Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:01 am
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Post Re: FW Dance
*follows Kalie in from the other forum*

I would think if the older women danced, then it was in private, sure to not arouse the suspicion of any men around them. Plus some might consider such dancing by maidens to b a thing of youth, of immaturity, youngsters who didnt know any better perhaps. As women got older, perhaps even a little more jaded, they would be sure to keep any dancing they did hidden amongest themselves. A matter of protection.


Mon Mar 08, 2010 5:51 am
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Post Re: FW Dance
Jadxia wrote:
*follows Kalie in from the other forum*



Hello, Jadxia! :D


It would be funny for a group of spinster never companioned women to have a secret society of bad dancers. "Yes, I think that *looks* right?" "Really? You don't think it makes me butt look too sensual?" "Oh, no. Definately not. No, it hadn't even crossed my mind!"
Kalie might attend, soley for the sake of anthropological and social notation of course! Yeah, that's it! :geek:


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